Dec 21, 2012; Toronto, ON, Canada; Toronto Raptors guard Terrence Ross (31) during their game against the Orlando Magic at the Air Canada Centre. The Raptors beat the Magic 93-90. Mandatory Credit: Tom Szczerbowski-USA TODAY Sports

Terrence Ross vs Andre Drummond – Who’s having the better rookie season?


Loyal Readers will recall I promised to compare Ross & Drummond several times during the season. Bryan Colangelo shocked the pundits on

Dec 21, 2012; Auburn Hills, MI, USA; Detroit Pistons center Andre Drummond (1) during the fourth quarter against the Washington Wizards at The Palace. Pistons won 100-68. Mandatory Credit: Tim Fuller-USA TODAY Sports

Draft Night by passing on Drummond at #8 to select Ross. The Pistons recovered from their astonishment in time to quickly choose Drummond next, leaving us Raps fans to wonder whether Colangelo’s choice was brilliant contrarianism or severe misjudgement.

Since we’re just past the season’s quarter-pole, let’s check on the young men’s progress. Here are the raw stats:

 

G

GS MPG FG% 3FG% FT% O-REB D-REB RPG APG SPG BPG TO  PF PPG

Ross

26 0 16.6 40.7 30.7 54.5 0.5 1.4 2.0 0.6 0.6 0.3 0.7 1.7

6.3

Drummond 30 0 18.8 55.9 50.0 40.0 2.8 4.1 6.8 0.5 0.8 1.5 0.8 1.9

6.6

Setting aside the anomalies (Andre is NOT a better 3-point shooter than Terrence – he’s tried two and made one) and funky extrapolations (Andre ranks third in the NBA in offensive rebounds per 48 minutes), we can see that the two players’ stats are surprising close.  Even their ugliest stat is the same: free throw percentage. Andre, a huge man who plays close to the basket, has much better rebounding numbers and a higher field goal percentage, both of which are to be expected when comparing a power forward to a shooting guard.

Where they really differ is their usage patterns. Andre’s MPG [above] is a true reflection of how he’s been used all season. Terrence, by contrast, has seen his minutes increase dramatically. He has played 21+ minutes in five of his last eight games, compared to one game like that in his first eight. Injuries to Kyle Lowry, Landry Fields, Linas Kleiza and Alan Anderson have forced Coach Casey to trust his gifted rookie, and Ross has seized his opportunity by providing many steady minutes (including a few highly exciting ones).

Neither will be anywhere near the top of the voting for Rookie of the Year, as that award will go to Portland’s precocious guard Damian Lillard, barring an earthquake or serious injury. However, neither Ross nor Drummond is a disappointment to their teams, and both are making solid progress in their professional careers. We’ll check in with them later in the season.

 

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  • http://www.facebook.com/brent.b.jacoby Brent B Jacoby

    To say that Andre Drummond who has over a 21 per and just as high as anythony Davis is the same as Terrance Ross whose PER is no where near an average shooting guard as he cannot hit any shots and has no noticeable impact on the game. Drummond has a huge noticeable impact as he will be leading all rookies I per and is top 5 in rebounding shooting blocks among all nba players and two espn guys out of the five say he is the rookie of the year 1/4 way through. Your doing a disservice to people reading this making such a huge lie to compare Terrance Ross any where near Drummond, there is such a a HUGE difference as Drummond is number 3 in espn rookie rankings and Terrance Ross is not even in top ten for a good reason.

    • Newmarket_Brian

      Well, thanks for your vigorous championing of Drummond. I was startled to see you claim “top 5 in rebounding shooting blocks among all players” so I went back to his data on the NBA website. Here it is:

      Ranks #49 in the NBA in Rebounds Per Game (6.4)

      Ranks #20 in the NBA in Blocks Per Game (1.43)

      Ranks #15 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds (74)

      Ranks #23 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per Game (2.6)

      Ranks #36 in the NBA in Total Rebounds (180)

      Ranks #16 in the NBA in Blocks (40)

      Ranks #3 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (6.9)

      Ranks #20 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (9.8)

      Ranks #6 in the NBA in Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (16.7)

      Ranks #45 in the NBA in Steals Per 48 Minutes (2.04)

      Ranks #8 in the NBA in Blocks Per 48 Minutes (3.7)

      Ranks #22 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking Per 48 Minutes (29.54)

      I’m not sure where you’re getting your data from. Regardless, I’m extremely sceptical of the “Per 48 minutes” stuff. By that standard, Ed Davis would be an All-Star.

      Here’s today’s NBA.com ranking of rookies:

      1–Damian Lillard
      2–Anthony Davis
      3–Alexey Shved
      4–Bradley Beal
      5–Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
      6–Dion Waiters
      7–Andre Drummond
      8–Tyler Zeller
      9–Kyle Singler
      10–Terrence Ross

      I stand by my piece. Ross is improving dramatically as he gets more minutes. Drummond has been nothing like the head case some people thought he might be, & is going to be a beast in years to come.

  • http://www.facebook.com/brent.b.jacoby Brent B Jacoby

    I mean just looking at those basic stat lines you can tell Drummond is way better than Ross, and if you really care to judge he two you should use PER and advanced statistics and Drummond would crush rose. He has been dominant so far and espn thinks he will be best player from this draft. I’m not even a pistons fan I like the raptors but to say Ross and Drummond similar is a lie

    • Newmarket_Brian

      The key for Terrence is improvement, & I think the kid is making strides on both sides of the ball. Let’s see where their respective PERs are the next time I do a checkpoint post (probably after the All-Star Game).

  • http://twitter.com/CraigDaitch Craig Daitch

    Hi Pistons fan here. What can’t be measured in stats should be measured in intangibles. Look at the +/- of Dre’s teammates when he’s in the game – namely Austin Daye, Will Bynum and Charlie Villanueva. Drummond is keeping defenses honest which is helping space the floor for open 3′s and easier penetration.

    On defense it’s no contest: Drummond’s impact is immediate. He’s still playing limited minutes but last night was a great sign when Frank inserted him in the lineup against the Hawks to thwart their comeback.

    We still have a long season of hoops ahead of us, I would not discredit Andre as a dark horse ROY candidate.

    • Newmarket_Brian

      Hi Craig: Good of you to check in. I agree with you; Andre is a RoY candidate. He has proven his reputation as a potential knucklehead was unfounded, & is still very young, yet contributing. I’m impressed by the Pistons. They’ve come alive & if Andre is the reason the players you mention are getting better looks, good on him.
      Is there going to be a race between Toronto & Detroit for the #8 seed?