Jan 21, 2013; Chicago, IL, USA; Chicago Bulls power forward Carlos Boozer (5) is defended by Los Angeles Lakers power forward Pau Gasol (16) during the second half at the United Center. The Bulls beat the Lakers 95-83. Mandatory Credit: Rob Grabowski-USA TODAY Sports

Trade Rumor: Toronto Raptors’ Andrea Bargnani & filler for Chicago Bulls’ Carlos Boozer


This trade is the latest topic of chatter, and seems to have substance, as it’s being mentioned by well-connected sites like SI.comHOOPSWORLD and ESPN. I’ve cranked up the Trade Machine once again, to see how this might work. There are too many variants to list, so I’ll stick to a few simple possibilities. If the Toronto Raptors trade Andrea Bargnani and Linas Kleiza to the Chicago Bulls for Carlos Boozer, it’s a working deal which projects a gain of 3 wins for the Raps, and a loss of 4 wins for the Bulls. (Yes, teams can trade an injured player. Chicago would simply waive the physical on Kleiza.) If I were Bulls’ coach Tom Thibodeau, I might threaten to hold my breath till I turn blue before I accept this deal. As I suggested in my previous trade rumor post, I can’t think of many players less likely to fit Thibodeau’s defense-first philosophy than AB, and Kleiza is broken. I’d be very surprised if he ever dresses for another NBA game.

Jan 16, 2013; Toronto, ON, Canada; Chicago Bulls forward Carlos Boozer (5) and center Joakim Noah (13) during their game against the Toronto Raptors at the Air Canada Centre. The Bulls beat the Raptors 107-105. Mandatory Credit: Tom Szczerbowski-USA TODAY Sports

[20-second timeout: We can't trade the recently acquired Hamed Haddadi in combination with any other players - I tried. He can be traded on his own, but that's moot to this discussion.]

Nate Robinson’s name has been tossed into the alleged discussions, so let’s re-do the trade to include Little Nate. AB and John Lucas III (also in reports) for Boozer and Robinson. Yes, it works – but the Raps gain 5 wins, while Chicago loses 11! I think the trade train has just pulled into Crazytown. Can we make a deal that seems barely plausible?

How about the one I suggested for Pau Gasol, which sees Landry Fields joining AB in Chi-town? No, it fails for reasons known only to NBA capologists. However, if we add Nate and Nazr Mohammed in with Boozer, it’s successful. Oddly enough, the trade has the same projected result (Raps +5, Bulls -11).

If there’s a trade that makes sense, I’m too blind to see it. Can anyone else figure out something that benefits both teams? If you do, please let us know in the Comments.

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  • http://twitter.com/ASFW_jrodger Julien Rodger

    Here’s the trade I like: 3 way deal where TOR moves Bargnani for Humphries, Nets move Humphries for Boozer and Chicago moves Boozer for Bargnani. Bargs for Hump is ideal for the Raptors, we get out of the last year of AB’s contract, which is needed as 2014-2015 we’re going to be in luxury tax problems without clearing salaries. Hump is former Raptor who fits our culture. For Chicago it’s just going along with the rumor that they’d like Booz for Bargs, as it’d get them under the luxury tax and would give them more spacing. And Hump for Boozer is sooooo Prokerhov era Nets, taking on a big name/impact player with a “No limit on our payroll” mentality

    • Newmarket_Brian

      Hello Julien: This will need to be a quick reply, as it’s half-time of Pacers game. I will take a long look at this deal early tomorrow, and run it through Trade Machine. At first glance – very interesting indeed.
      Thanks for commenting.

      • Newmarket_Brian

        Hi again: Well, the fact is that the Raps & Nets could make your proposed deal (Andrea for Hump) without regard to the Bulls. The Nets could flip AB & filler for Boozer after.
        Do we really want Hump back in Raps red? He can ‘bound without doubt but doesn’t have much else on offer. If Jonas & Amir can clean the offensive boards like they did last night, I don’t think Hump is of much value. I’d rather keep AB, at least until closer to the trade deadline, to see if he can be productive off the bench.
        Stay in touch, please.

  • help me i’m on welfare

    I got a much better trade for Toronto. Bargs and Lucas III (who would be waived) to Denver who sends Mozgov and Chandler to Minnesota who sends Pekovic and Ridnour to Toronto. Everybody wins here and it works in the trade machine.

    • Newmarket_Brian

      Hi: I’ll take a look at this trade scenario on Saturday. Thanks for bringing to my attention.

      • Newmarket_Brian

        Hi again: I replicated this trade on the Machine, and it projects as a massive win for the Raps, and a big loss for the T’Wolves. I’m not sure why they would do it.

        I then “cut out the middle man” & tried Pekovic/Ridnour for AB. That also works, and is once again a huge upgrade for Raps. I like Pekovic, & Ridnour would at least be point guard insurance. Can we sweeten this deal to make it more appealing to Minnesota? Let me know.

        • help me i’m on welfare

          Can’t cut the middle man, because Timberwolves already have love as a stretch 4 so Bargnani is redundant. This way Minnesota gets a cheaper effective option at centre (Mozgov’s stats would be better if he got playing time instead of being stick behind Koufos and McGee), plus scoring from Chandler. Denver gets a stretch 4 in Bargnani (whose defense won’t be an issue and may excel beside countryman Gallinari). Toronto gets a centre for JV to work behind and a back up PG. I think this is the best trade out there for Bargnani that actually helps all teams involved.

          • Newmarket_Brian

            OK, I’ll take another look. Check in on Monday, and thanks for keeping the conversation rolling.

          • help me i’m on welfare

            Another good trade is Bargnani to Phoenix for Gortat straight up. Works in the machine. Toronto gets 2 wins , but Phoenix gets 5 more points a game. We really could use a consistent experienced centre so JV ca develop. Phoenix could throw in filler to balance salaries, but this trade will work without that.

  • help me i’m on welfare

    I got a much better trade for Toronto. Bargs and Lucas III (who would be waived) to Denver who sends Mozgov and Chandler to Minnesota who sends Pekovic and Ridnour to Toronto. Everybody wins here and it works in the trade machine.

  • steppxxxxz

    the problem with fans creating trades is that usually the teams dont want these trades. Toronto wants to be rid of AB. I suspect they would take almost anything to make that happen. Getting boozer does have some upside for toronto, but none for the Bulls. No matter how badly chicago wants out of the boozer contract, getting bargs back is a big negative. This guy has been mostly awful….especially on defense, but also in terms of just ball handling (he’s terrible). Boozer gives the raps a needed post up game…….but given his age, its not a great trade for them either, just less bad than it is for chicago. If toronto could get butler say, and give up ross………that might work. But no, i dont see any of this working .

    • Newmarket_Brian

      Hi John: Andrea has looked sound in his first 2 games back. If he’s being spotlighted, it’s not apparent, as he’s been taking only good shots in the flow of the game. I’m one of the last guys standing who thinks AB can still be a useful contributor, particularly now that Rudy is here to take some pressure off. If this trade happens (and I’m with you, I don’t think it will), it do so very close to the deadline.
      Now watch Colangelo announce it tomorrow and make a fool out of me, again!
      Thanks for commenting.

  • steppxxxxz

    bargs and ross for boozer and butler.

    • Newmarket_Brian

      If I’m Colangelo, I’m not trading Ross.

  • http://www.facebook.com/michael.gaudreau.37 Michael Gaudreau

    I like both of your articles recently, If the Raptors are going to trade for boozer they need to do it now. taking a look at their schedule, their next ten or more games are winnable, and very winnable with an addition like boozer. It is not unthinkable if the raptors keep competing like they have been they could still make a run for the playoffs, But if they dont make a trade in the very near future, they should play the kids and see what happends. To be in the running, The raps are going to need to post a 22 and nine reccord for the remainder of the season. With the current lineup I dont think this is possible, Conclusion being, Trade now or prepare for next season.

    • Newmarket_Brian

      Hi Michael: I’m glad you liked the articles. Moreover, you’ve anticipated my next one, which I drafted last night. You’ll see what I mean when we publish it.
      I agree that another trade, particularly for Boozer, would be a short-term playoff push. Let’s give Andrea a few more games. The man can play; he’s just not a star in the making, and might prove very helpful with the spotlight somewhere else.
      Thanks for commenting.

  • Steve

    I agree that bargnani needs to go and a guy like boozer, I am more than happy to get. But one thing, don’t look into ESPN trade machine win or loss thing because that Rudy Gay trade actually had us -3 I believe. Robinson plays really well under Tom and maybe he’ll do the same in Toronto. Colangelo will definitely look into some other trades before pulling this one. Believe it or not bargnani has been playing alright and his trade value could go up in the summer

    • Newmarket_Brian

      Hi Steve: I think one of 2 things will happen with AB. He’ll either be traded in the off-season (with filler) for Pau Gasol, or he sticks around as a key member of our second unit.
      I use the Trade Machine as a sanity check, and only report the projections if they are interesting.
      You’re right about Nate Robinson – the only place he’s played well is Chicago. He’s not my kind of player, but perhaps a mature coach like Dwane Casey could keep him under control.
      Thanks for commenting.