December 3, 2013; Oakland, CA, USA; Golden State Warriors shooting guard Klay Thompson (11) shoots the basketball against Toronto Raptors shooting guard DeMar DeRozan (10) during the fourth quarter at Oracle Arena. The Warriors defeated the Raptors 112-103. Mandatory Credit: Kyle Terada-USA TODAY Sports

NEW POLL: "To tank or not to tank, that is the question"

My apologies, Rapture Nation (and Willie Shakespeare): I couldn’t stand the thought of writing about that god-awful loss to the Warriors after staying up half the night to watch our team blow a 27 point lead.

Instead, I’d like to take your pulse on a matter which I had hoped to be able to stay away from, namely, dumping all our veteran players in hopes of gaining a high draft pick. This year’s “crop” of young collegians is already being compared to 2003, when LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade were early selections. With the Raps’ season once again in danger of slipping under the waters, not to return, a decision needs to be made. But which decision – and when? Let us know; Comments welcome.

When is the right time to blow up this roster and go into the tank?

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  • Dinos Charitopoulos

    The solution is more than tanking. We must start from the Head Coach, and then proceed to the players change. One “clever” trade would be with the Bucks, who are the worst team in the league, and they will have 100% a high first-round pick. So send there Rudy Gay for the high-potential PG/SG/SF Greek Freek Antetokounmpo, the expiring contract of Caron Butler and couple of picks (I dont know if this could happen or I am just dreaming). But i would love to see this kid in Raptorland.

    • Newmarket_Brian

      Hi Dinos:
      As you can see from other comments (though you were first), there’s a lot of grumbling about Dwane Casey.
      Did you run the salary numbers on your proposed trade with Milwaukee? I’ll take a run at it later today. I doubt the Bucks would give up young Alphabet, but it’s a deal I’d be proposing if I were Masai. Well done.
      I think you’re a first-time commenter. I hope you come back.

      • Dinos Charitopoulos

        Hello Brian, if u use the ESPN trade machine, you cannot add (or I don’t know who to) draft pics. But i put Butler and another 4million player and this trade gets successfull. It’s unlikely of this trade to happen, but it would be a win one for toronto, win -shorterm only-for the Bucks. Butler’s contract is expiring, so if we don’t really want him for the long term, its ok. Antetokounmpo is still a mystery player (even me who im greek i didnt see him play alot cause he started from the bottom), but his potential is high. We could use him even as a PG (so the tank season this season would be 100% secured) or a SG/SF…The Bucks need a veteran talented player (Gay) so he could help them (?) stop reading the scoresheets lol!!!

        • Newmarket_Brian

          Hi Dinos:
          No, we don’t want Butler. His best days are behind him.
          The Trade Machine is a useful tool, but the draft pick issue renders it difficult to use for “real world” deals in which picks may be the most important asset being moved.
          I’ve tried to plough through NBA CBA websites, but my brain starts to hurt.
          I doubt the Bucks will be a trade partner for anyone. I suspect they’ve written this season off.
          Stay in touch, please.

          • Dinos Charitopoulos

            I agree with you…about Bulter ( I “used” him as a trade pick for Giannis) and about the whole team of Milwaukee…Let’s wait and see if the xmas time will “create” some miracles in our team…

          • Newmarket_Brian

            Hi Dinos:
            With the Rudy Gay trade, I think xmas came early!

  • Rowdy101

    A Van Gundy is available. Need I say more.

    • Newmarket_Brian

      Hi Rowdy:
      It may indeed be the moment for a coaching change. Masai may also elect to let Casey’s contract run out, then take some time this summer to find the right man. I’m not sure about either Van Gundy; which one do you like?
      Thanks for checking in.

  • AM

    By tanking, a team is putting their hopes in ping-pong balls, which may or may not go their way. All these fan sites with people going for Wiggins need a reality check. Yes, by tanking you can have a very good draft pick but then the organization is putting a lot of hope in one, very young player and who knows if they will pan out to their potential (ask the Cavs). Let Masai do his thing, there’s way more to this than just hoping for a top pick. Look at his time in Denver.

    Casey has some blame, but anyone who has some sort of coaching experience, no matter the level, will attest to the fact that sometimes the ball is literally in the hands of the players. When this group is playing well, they just play simple and move the ball. It’s when ego’s get in the way of better basketball. More blame on the players in my opinion, especially the one who doesn’t know how or when to pass – Gay. Versus GS they got away from moving the ball and tried too many iso’s (that and the Warriors were hitting some crazy shots).

    The team has talent and assets (not working cohesively at the moment) that a lot of teams would want. Even though he hasn’t done anything yet, I’m confident in Ujiri.

    • Newmarket_Brian

      Hi AM:
      I concur completely that putting your hopes in ping pong balls can be very silly and unrewarding. So is putting the hopes of an entire franchise on a teenager. Sometimes (LeBron James) it works out; sometimes (Andrea Bargnani) all you get is heartburn.
      I’m also with you on Rudy Gay. He can be a fine player, but the offense stagnates too often with him. I’d trade him tomorrow if I could. Let’s hope Masai can find someone to dance with.
      Thanks for commenting.