Mar 18, 2014; New York, NY, USA; New York Knicks new president of basketball operations Phil Jackson (right) talks with Madison Square Garden chairman James Dolan at a press conference at Madison Square Garden. Mandatory Credit: William Perlman/THE STAR-LEDGER via USA TODAY Sports

The Raptors & Draft Day - a couple of player-free trades to consider making beforehand


 

Jul 23, 2013; Philadelphia, PA, USA; Philadelphia 76ers general manager Sam Hinkie during a press conference at PCOM. Mandatory Credit: Howard Smith-USA TODAY Sports

As I scour the draft order of selection, I am struck by some interesting anomalies. Some NBA teams are loaded with picks, and some are bereft. To be specific, the Philadelphia 76ers have no fewer than five second-round picks. In addition, they are certain to enjoy one first-round lottery pick (likely a juicy one, given their dismal record) AND they will probably receive New Orleans’ first-rounder, currently projected at #10. The Milwaukee Bucks, the league’s worst team, may well get the first overall selection, and have three second-rounders. The New York Knicks, true to their win-now mindset, have traded all their picks. (As Dr. Phil used to say “How’s that working out for you?”) With all that as backdrop, let’s see how we can help our favourite team.

The Toronto Raptors have picks 20, 37, & 59. What if GM Masai Ujiri offers his counterpart in Philly, Sam Hinkie, our #20 for their #s 32 & 39? If we accept the idea that the vast majority of draft picks following the lottery selections have little impact, what’s our risk? I’d prefer to bring four second-rounders to camp, in the hope that one will be a pleasant surprise, rather than three. It’s a numbers game. From Philly’s perspective, they have overplayed their hand. A total of seven draft picks is too much, and I suspect Hinkie would be secretly relieved to have to cope with “only” six new faces, three of whom are first-rounders. Even Philly’s notoriously cantankerous fans and press would be OK with this deal.

Here’s Plan B. Milwaukee’s GM, currently John Hammond (the winds of change are swirling all around that franchise), would probably be happy to take our pick in exchange for any two of his numbers 31, 36 & 48. For both teams it’s the same principle I’ve just espoused.

What about the Knicks? Would new GM Phil Jackson like to have a draft pick? The cupboard is pretty bare for those guys, which doesn’t break my heart in the slightest. Masai should call Phil, let him know our pick is available, then end the conversation. If nothing else, Phil can go to his boss, the serial interferer James Dolan, and tell him he wants to make a deal with Toronto. Dolan will say No on principle, as he feels like he gets hosed when trading with Masai. Phil will threaten to quit because he was promised a free hand in the team’s rebuild, the New York press will get hold of the story, and much fun will result.

There’s my food for thought, which I’ll likely return to once the lottery is complete and the order of selection finalized. I’ve constructed a couple of deals which strictly involve draft choice numbers, so avoiding any CBA issues. What do you think, Rapture Nation? Do you dis/like the principle of dealing our first-rounder for two seconds? I’d like to hear from you, and I’d welcome any deals you can contruct with the Knicks.

 

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  • Jensan

    No you don’t trade out of the first round there is enough solid players at # 20 , that in other drafts would be at 10-15. The players such as Payne, TJ Warren , Mcdaniels and Grant will be rotation players .
    Your first second round pick could get you a 3rd Pg such as a Russ Smith or a nick Johnson , or one of the guys that slid out of the first.
    Would not be surprised if Raptors traded their 2 second round picks for an even higher 2 nd pick from the bucks, if a quality player fell into the second round like a Mitch Mcgary, though Denver maybe his choice.

    • Newmarket_Brian

      Hi Jensan:
      You may be right; I need to see more film on the prospects likely to be still on the board. I’ll return to this topic once I’ve done that, and the lottery is complete.
      Regards, Brian

  • kill

    It’s rumoured that masai is focused on finding serviceable talent with the second round pick also. It would be huge to do so.

    • Newmarket_Brian

      Hi kill:
      One of the many things I like about Masai is his willingness to admit he was lucky, instead of claiming brilliance, for moves that work out. The most prominent example of that is how he explains the amazing injection of positive chemistry which resulted from the trade of Rudy Gay. In short, he doesn’t explain it…he just accepts the good fortune, and give the players all the credit.
      That’s one of the reasons why I think my suggested trades are plausible in Toronto. Masai is humble, and willing to accept the concept of increasing his odds of finding “serviceable talent” by increasing the player pool. One overlooked diamond is all we want.
      Thanks for commenting.

  • Jensan

    there is more than enough servicable talent in the 2nd round with the first pick, the second pick is a crapshoot

  • Jensan

    Here is the trade I would make prior to draft day- Salmons, Fields and Hayes plus a 2015 or 2016- 1st pick for Lee and Harrison Barnes. GS saves 26 million in salaries over life of the contract and gains a first round pick. GS buyout Salmons for $1 Million dollars.

    Harrison Barnes starts, T Ross is instant offense off the bench.

    Starting Five of Lowry, DD, Harrison Barnes, Lee and JV. Bench Vasquez, TRoss, 1st Round Pick ( Adrien Payne), PP and Amir Johnson. Your 11 player is Nick Johnson (Russ Smith or Devontae Burton) and 12th player is Novak. 13th player can be your 2nd second round pick.

    Salaries total starting five with Lowry making 11 million- 42.6 million dollars. Bench 21.3 million dollars. 1.6 million for buyouts and 1 million for your two 2nd round picks. 14 Players and 68.6 million dollars. Keep DeColo or a sign a Vet minimum for more bench depth.

    Team is more athletic, and Lee can play PF and Backup Center, Amir Johnson is a great guy off the bench still receiving 22-24 minutes a game. He becomes your Chuck Hayes with more talent. PP signs for what you offer or Adrien Payne becomes your Hansborough with more talent and a lesser cost even though he has ADHD, however, he has overcome that challenge and succeeded in his academics and his playing of his new profession. That success should be appreciated.

    There is room next year for salary increases of 2 milion due to the elimination of the Camby attribution and a decision what to do with Amir Johnson re-upping, which financially you have the ability to do, remember Amir is 27 years old, or by trading him in mid season if you keep PP and have Adrien Payne.

    Remember if you do this the luxury tax for 2014/15 is projected at $76.6 million and rumors of a 80 million dollar luxury tax line.

    Finally the age of the team is a little younger because you give up Hayes, Fields , as well as dropping Hansborough and Salmons, but you keep Lowry and add a 32 year old in Lee, Barnes is 23, and so is Adrien Payne. There is I believe a big upgrade in talent. Make the trade, even if you have to make a 2nd round pick of 2014 part of the deal.

    Basically Lee and Novak are over 30, Lowry and Johnson are 28/29 and the rest of the team is between 21 -25. This is a young team with talent and leadership. Novak will be eventually traded, but there is still cap space and backup pieces to the puzzle.

    2015 your salaries are around 70 million dollars if you keep Amir Johnson, leaving plenty of room to add players. in 2016 when the players have a new negotiated contract. The Raptors are not exposed for huge amounts of monies.

    • Newmarket_Brian

      Hi Jensan:

      You’ve given us a lot to think about with this comment.
      I like your Golden State trade, because Lee is a hustler and Barnes still hasn’t reached his potential. My biggest worry would be our team defense, as neither of these guys is known for their beastliness on the other side of the ball. I’d be surprised if GS takes Hayes. We need to find him a new home. Like Fields, he’s too expensive for what he provides.
      I’m in total agreement about moving Amir to the bench. He’s the only guy who can bring strong relief at both PF & C.

      What I’ve seen of Adrien Payne I like, but question marks remain.
      I hope others comment on what you’ve written.
      Regards,
      Brian

  • Schmee

    This is a deep draft. It would be a terrible decision to trade the 20th pick for a couple more second rounders. What’s the point in hoping we can get a pleasant surprise in the second round when we know we can get at least a solid contributor for next season with our current pick.

    • Newmarket_Brian

      Hi Schmee:
      I hope your optimism about choosing a “solid contributor” is justified. While this is a deep draft at the top, I’m not convinced that our pick is likely to be any better than a typical #20. And I don’t think it would be a “terrible decision” to trade out of the draft, either in the fashion I’ve outlined or by throwing in the pick as a significant sweetner on a player-oriented deal.
      Thanks for commenting.

  • Jensan

    Brian
    Would you trade Johnson, salmons, Fields and 2nd round pick for Lee and Barnes.

    • Newmarket_Brian

      Hi Jensan:
      Hell, yeah!
      You’re talking about getting two front-of-the-rotation players for two guys of almost no value, a second-rounder (likewise) and Amir. As much as we’d miss Amir, gaining Lee and Barnes would stop the tears.

      • Jensan

        The trade could evolve to Johnson, hansborough and salmons for Harrison and lee so that GS saves 9 million dollars in the first year and could spend that on a quality 4

  • Jensan

    Brian doing the trade with golden state and if you give up your Knicks 2016 draft pick with Johnson , psycho

    • Newmarket_Brian

      Hi Jensan:
      It looks like David Lee is in play! Steve Kerr wants a stretch four. Time to build a trade.

  • Jensan

    And salmons it opens the door for a 1st round pick draymond green and Johnson for Love . GS replaces Lee with Love , Toronto gives up Johnson & 1sr round pick . GS gives up 2 million dollars , Lee and Harrison Barnes